Genuine altum or not?

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » 03 Nov 2009, 14:25

Hello Heiko.

I have a question for you regarding Altum. Do you think these scalars in the picture is genuine altum from Rio Orinoco? I apologize for the bad picture, but hope you can give an answer in spite of the bad image.

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Best Regards Tommy.

Post by **Heiko Bleher** » 08 Nov 2009, 20:14

Hi,

sorry for the late answer.

Yes these are real P. altum Pellegrin, 1904 from the upper Orinoco drainage. You can see it by the way the bend they can do with their body (only the real P. altum can do that, no other angelfish) and also the tail and fin pattern is only in altum like this (the pattern/stripes) and well as the head formation (extreme).

All the very best,

always

Heiko Bleher
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Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » 08 Nov 2009, 20:25

Thank you so mutch for the answear.

Ouscazz · Post by **Ouscazz** » 08 Nov 2009, 21:30

Dear Heiko,

It would be very kind of you if you could share some knowledge on how to spot a true P. Atum Pellegrin 1904. What are the main differences between the true Pellegrin 1904 and the other wild caught Angels?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Ouscazz · Post by **Ouscazz** » 10 Nov 2009, 11:21

Mr. Bleher,

Have you ever heard about two Czeh guys, Dr. Pojar and Petr Hák, who this guy on Youtube obviously claim are succesful P. Altum breeders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKsE6cvzA30

Post by **Gajowa** » 26 Nov 2009, 15:36

Hi
I think we just bought altums from the same Czeh guy. Our altums are F4 what he said. But he also said, that this is a generation from spawn that German Mr Linke (I think that was the name) and Czeh man did some years ago.

Ouscazz · Post by **Ouscazz** » 26 Nov 2009, 15:43

Hi Barbara,

Interresting!
Are there any official confirmations on successful Pterophyllum Altum Pellegrin 1903 spawning available?

Post by **Gajowa** » 28 Nov 2009, 00:42

Hi
I don't know about that, but apparently it was "very loud" about that spawning.
Maybe Heiko know something about that?
We also bought some manacapuru scalare.

Ouscazz · Post by **Ouscazz** » 28 Nov 2009, 21:10

Gajowa wrote:Hi
I don't know about that, but apparently it was "very loud" about that spawning.

I'm not the expert around here... but, if the fish in your images are being sold as F4 Altums I would dare to say they are cross bred...

Ouscazz · Post by **Ouscazz** » 28 Nov 2009, 21:49

One of my juvies... 1,75" SL

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